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Old 07-27-2005, 06:00 PM
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Default Asperger's syndrome

I'd like to hear from anyone who has a family member with Asperger's, which is a form of autism. I have married into a family where the grandmother has Asperger's and it took us a while to work out just why she was so odd. She functio quite well on a practical level, but there's no emotional dimension to her at all. Now that we have a diagnosis, her behaviors all make sense. But two of her children and two grandchildren exhibit signs of the disorder, and they are so hard to relate to, that I and the other in-laws have trouble when we have get-togethers. Does anyone have a similar experience?
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Old 08-14-2005, 08:35 AM
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Who has given the aspbergers DX?I have a son w/ Aspbergers and it took quite awhile to get the DX but finally did I knew there was something wrong.
The emotional aspect is only one small part. Usually they suffer too from pramatic/semantic disorder which too makes them seem insenstive.
This disorder is difficult for other to understand. Sometimes I wish my son had a sign on his forehead w/ Aspbergers written on it. It amazing me how help peolpe are w/ my younger son who has CP and that they will shun my oldest w/ Aspbergers
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:29 PM
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I'm sure they only shun your Asperger son because they are getting little feedback and they simply don't know what to do. In researching this problem I have found a lot of material on helping children with Aspergers but virtually none on the way adults exhibit the disorder. It must be frustrating for you, but it is a little known condition, it took us years to find out what was actually wrong with the grandmother I spoke of. Within minutes of meeting her, it was apparent something wan't right, but getting to the bottom of it took ages. Meanwhile a lot of damage was done to the extended family by her behaviors. At least your son has been diagnosed early and his behaviors can at least be explained rather than misunderstood. Knowledge is power. I wish you and your son well in the future.

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Old 10-12-2005, 01:21 PM
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I have an adult business client who claims he was diagnosed with Aspbergers. Apparently it took a while to come up with that. He had a rough time in school. Very solitary type, very methodical. Speaks well, stammers a little. Never looks me in the eye. Very cautious. He seems to be a creature of habit. When I went to his house, I saw he has one plate. One bowl. One glass. One table setting. He sets it in the same place every night. He has certain routes he will take to get to the bus in the morning. No variations. Any new wrinkles in a situation overwhelm him, so even though he is brilliant, I often have to explain things many times to him. And when he gets it, he has these big AHA! moments.
I think he was taught certain survival skills socially and also living wise - and as long as he stays on that path, he feels safe. He's a really sweet man - not antisocial rude, but appears very awkward and shy. He is in his 30s. We should all be so successful!
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Old 10-13-2005, 12:46 PM
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I don't have family members with the disorder. As a teacher, though, I've worked with many students with it. You are right about the exhibited behaviors. People with Asperger's do come across as quite detached. For the most part, I've found them to be highly intelligent and insightful. You and your family will have to learn to appreciate the good qualities she has and understand that she will likely always seem emotionally detached.
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Old 08-07-2006, 02:01 PM
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Default Aspbergers

Hello,
I have a son who is 4. I knew since he was born he was differant. I am not his natural father. I adopted him at birth. In my heart he is mine, biologally he is not. I had him diagnosed at Dornbecker Hospital. They told me he has Aspbergers, a form of Autism. He and I have a special relationship. I interact with him at his level. His mother, my exwife has no idea why her son acts why he does. She is in total denial of her addictions and any consequenses of her addictions that has any relatiionship with why her son is as he is. To me what she did during her pregancy is besides the point, and we as parents must accept how things are, and help our children become the best they can be. My parents have asked me many times to do a DNA test and give up the custody of my son, because caring for him takes away from my daughter. I cant do that to him. Thats where Im at with that issue. I have read that Autism comes from genetics, mercury poisoning ect. Can it come from Methamphetamine use, and or Alcohol use while pregnant? I have read that Methampetamine use changes the moleccular stucture of the forming brain tissue at the cellular level while in vetro. So with that in mind, the infants brain is not able to function as do normally healthy babies. I do not know if my parenting plan will hold up the the rigors of raising a child with disabilities, but I am willing to try. I think for each of us ( parents ) we need to remember: We love these little people, They need our help, They in turn will receppocrate back to use what we give them, Love.
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Old 08-07-2006, 07:41 PM
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http://www.creative-minds.info/Lorelei/Home.htm

Updated March 2006, written by an adult AS. Much of the Asperger community does not believe that AS is truly "high functioning autism" but something else entirely.

http://www.spacehost.us/~aliki/autism/ntsurveys.html

For friend/families of Autistic Spectrum identified people.

http://www.aspergers.com/

I have taken many a online quiz and always come back Aspie, but I am not. Please visit this site for more info.

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Old 08-07-2006, 07:57 PM
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"Or imagine this:
You grew up with a strong interest in computers, which was all you ever thought about. You did somewhat well in school, if unevenly, but you were ostracized by your peers because you could never figure out the social game. Even the other "geeks" made fun of you, and in school you were bullied constantly.
The teachers encouraged the bullying as a way to toughen you up and prepare you for society. You cried a lot over this, and teachers, kids, and even your parents called you a baby and a sissy. You could never figure out what you were doing wrong, although you are sure it is something because people keep telling you to shape up. They act like it's obvious what to do. You never know what to do and you're always out of step. You're also often in sensory overload at things that don't bother other people, and you get blamed for overreacting or being too sensitive.
You develop your computer interest into a hobby of computer programming. As you get older, you get jobs in that field, although you struggle with workplace politics and dealing socially with your coworkers. You come home exhausted and lonely. You have no friends. You've never been on a date. And you desperately want friends. You don't know what it's like to be valued, you wish that you were like everyone else because you don't see any way to be you and be happy.
You find out about autism, and at long last end up with an adult diagnosis of Asperger's syndrome. You are referred to the local parent support group — there is nothing like that for actual autistic people in your area, so they all get referred to the parent groups. Many of the parents there are floored to meet an adult who is like their children. You in turn are floored that they consider you such a success. You had always thought of your life as a failure at everything.
You start to get invitations to speak, not only at that group, but at your autism society. People ask you to tell the story of your life. You tell it, over and over again. You get asked a lot of questions that seem strange or even demeaning. Everyone wants to know how you were potty-trained, whether you've ever had sex, that kind of thing. When you answer them, though, people are nice to you. Not even your own parents have ever been this nice to you.
This becomes your only real social outlet. You give talks, people give you praise. They tell you you've overcome your Asperger's very well, that you're amazing, that you're an inspiration to parents of autistic children everywhere. You tell them whatever they want to know about you. You learn to dissect your life for autistic "symptoms": You describe yourself almost as if you are a case history rather than a real live human being. You become adept at explaining social awkwardness, Theory Of Mind, your monotone voice, motor clumsiness, and perseveration. You occasionally throw in some of your own touches to keep it individual — a few jokes about neurotypicals here and there — but even those, everyone knows you're not really serious, and they're toned down.
You learn never to be threatening, never to say anything too far out of line, no matter what you think. It's subtle, but your thinking slowly alters so that it goes along with what parents will find the least threatening. You don't want to risk losing them. You're not even aware of how much your thinking has changed.
You learn to never hold too much of an opinion on anything. If you do, you learn individual-speak: "This is my story," "I only have mild Asperger's, so what was abusive to me might not be abuse for someone more severely autistic," "We are all different and I am the only person I can talk about when I say this." When you hear talk about cattle prods being used on autistic children, you think, "We are all different. I wouldn't like being zapped with a cattle prod, but who's to say it wouldn't be necessary for someone else?" You learn to attribute such abuse to autism itself, declaring it a sad fact of autism that some people are so autistic that their caregivers have no choice but to torture, segregate, or kill them. Any opinion you may still have gets diluted in the language of impairment and individualism.
But then one day you really need help with something. Workplace discrimination, the inaccessibility of a class you're required to take, or something else like that. And so you turn to your "friends" at the parent groups. Instead of giving you help, they shower you with praise. They tell you you're excellent and a role model for Asperger kids everywhere. They tell you that you should be proud of yourself, that they are proud of you for getting so far. You like the praise, but it suddenly feels... hollow.
You don't want to give up your social outlet, though. So even as you have an increasing awareness that you're being used, and being demeaned, you can't stop. The loneliness is still there, and comes back in full force sometimes, but you figure that it would be even worse being alone. You turn off your emotions and trot out your rehearsed spiels, not even sure you believe them anymore.
Instead of recognition of what is happening, a "concerned" parent refers you to a psychiatrist who starts treating you for depression. You start incorporating how depressing the Asperger existence is into your talks more and more. You use the same clinical language that is used about you. You also start endorsing various causes, barely noticing how you're becoming tokenized, as "This autistic person believes this is good, so all the others shouldn't care." Everyone still tells you how great you are for doing what you do, but you don't feel good about it anymore. You wonder if anyone sees you at all. You wonder who you are.
You don't see a way out, because you've never experienced any social validation except when it is in an exploitative and demeaning context. You sometimes switch between different parent groups, but they all end up being about the same. Your problems don't get solved — unless some parent who found you especially insightful has the "charity" to decide to help you with something — and you continue to get used. Sometimes you really believe them, and sometimes you don't. You've never experienced praise for being who you are, only praise for things that don't seem praiseworthy to you anymore. But that's deep down inside and on the surface you continue, day after day, the drudgery of exploitation in exchange for a false sense of friendship.
This is not about pity or the tragedy of disability. This is about systemic injustice. This happens every day."


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